0 00:00:00,399 --> 00:00:04,640 john i would prefer a world where god 1 00:00:02,639 --> 00:00:05,920 had the capacity to guard innocent 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,240 people from harm 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,160 and did it i wish i lived in that world 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,559 i wish you lived in that world 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,160 tragically we don't we live in a world 6 00:00:12,559 --> 00:00:16,000 where innocent people suffer 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,680 illness and accident and crime and all 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,000 sorts of other things 9 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,279 given the reality of those things how do 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,519 we understand them 11 00:00:21,279 --> 00:00:24,880 you either believe that god wants these 12 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:26,880 things to happen because he's 13 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,320 in control of the whole show and then 14 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,160 you have to understand 15 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,599 why is he doing this what are we being 16 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,640 punished for what is the lesson he's 17 00:00:31,599 --> 00:00:35,760 trying to teach us 18 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,520 or else as i prefer to believe to to 19 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,360 choose to say that these happen for 20 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,879 other reasons which are beyond god's 21 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,520 power to prevent 22 00:00:40,879 --> 00:00:45,840 and that god is on our side how does my 23 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,640 understanding of god sustain us 24 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,120 because it says to people god is on your 25 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,360 side 26 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,640 god feels as bad about this as hurt by 27 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,800 this as you do 28 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,160 he's not punishing you you don't deserve 29 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,280 it the key 30 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:01,440 to surviving misfortune and tragedy is 31 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,600 one's own self-esteem 32 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,280 one's own sense that i am a good person 33 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,080 this shouldn't be happening to me 34 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,760 religion should not defend god and 35 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,920 justify misfortune 36 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,439 religion should bind the wounds of the 37 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,360 bleeding human being 38 00:01:13,439 --> 00:01:16,720 and tell him that god loves him and does 39 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,720 not want him to suffer 40 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,759 okay dr geisler well i certainly agree 41 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,479 with that i think that 42 00:01:19,759 --> 00:01:24,560 god is on our side god does love us he's 43 00:01:22,479 --> 00:01:26,720 manifested by creating us 44 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,600 by sustaining us by giving us ear to 45 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,600 breathe our 46 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,840 heart beats within our bodies he gives 47 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,320 us food every good thing in its season 48 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,400 uh he's manifested his love in 49 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:38,240 innumerable ways to us but what really 50 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,640 comforts me is not simply 51 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,520 that god loves me but that the god that 52 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,240 loves me 53 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,960 has the power to fulfill the desires of 54 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,200 that love 55 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:48,399 that he's not handcuffed by laws he's 56 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,960 made he's not 57 00:01:48,399 --> 00:01:52,720 uh tongue-tied by the creation that 58 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,799 surrounds him that god is in sovereign 59 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,040 control over the world and that he can 60 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:58,719 bring about exactly what his love 61 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,079 desires to be brought about 62 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:04,240 if i didn't have a kind of god who was 63 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:06,240 both all-powerful and all-loving 64 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,239 there would be no reason to be assured 65 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,319 from his love because he might be so 66 00:02:08,239 --> 00:02:12,319 impotent that he couldn't accomplish any 67 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:14,160 of his loving desires for me 68 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:16,160 but norm i think the question becomes if 69 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,360 god has the power to do these things out 70 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,400 of his love 71 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,640 why doesn't he why does the person die 72 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,840 why does the accident happen why does 73 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:26,080 the rapist 74 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,280 mutilate the body of the young girl i 75 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,360 think that's a good question 76 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,280 as i see it there are two answers to 77 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,160 that or two aspects of it to the bible 78 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,959 one we're free 79 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,040 and god gave us freedom and two is that 80 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:39,519 this world is not the whole story 81 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,239 if we assume that this life is the whole 82 00:02:39,519 --> 00:02:42,879 story 83 00:02:40,239 --> 00:02:43,599 then it seems unjust but if we assume 84 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:45,920 there is a life 85 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:46,800 after this and that god is not finished 86 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:48,480 with us yet 87 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,680 that he's going to resurrect the dead 88 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,040 that there's going to be a day of 89 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,440 reckoning of reward 90 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,440 and punishment then of course it takes 91 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,000 on entirely different color 92 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,080 the bible says that jesus christ brought 93 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,879 life and immortality to light through 94 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,200 the gospel 95 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:05,280 and what gives me hope as a believer is 96 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,560 that jesus reversed the course of death 97 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,879 he suffered for us 98 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:19,840 and he brought us hope of an immortal 99 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:19,840 life therefore 100 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,159 you