1 00:00:24,969 --> 00:00:31,479 a lot this week in the office here we 2 00:00:28,329 --> 00:00:34,269 were talking about revelation and has 3 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,039 booked up definitely a revelation we're 4 00:00:34,270 --> 00:00:38,769 talking eschatology and I just wondered 5 00:00:36,039 --> 00:00:42,698 what your view was of the chronology of 6 00:00:38,768 --> 00:00:48,369 the rapture and I believe it's all gonna 7 00:00:42,698 --> 00:00:49,479 happen ya know not to dodge your 8 00:00:48,369 --> 00:00:50,919 question I'm in historic 9 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,628 premillennialists I believe the most 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,309 natural interpretation of scriptures the 11 00:00:52,628 --> 00:00:56,439 millennium is an historical event I 12 00:00:54,308 --> 00:00:58,238 think again it's also tied to the grand 13 00:00:56,439 --> 00:01:00,429 story of the Bible and that you have 14 00:00:58,238 --> 00:01:01,899 Christ reigning with the Saints you know 15 00:01:00,429 --> 00:01:05,530 for that thousand years which is a 16 00:01:01,899 --> 00:01:07,929 period of time in which the rightness of 17 00:01:05,530 --> 00:01:13,409 his reign exists of judgment upon the 18 00:01:07,930 --> 00:01:16,180 wrongness of human rule and misrule I 19 00:01:13,409 --> 00:01:18,130 don't buy into I'm not a 20 00:01:16,180 --> 00:01:21,220 dispensationalists so I have a hard time 21 00:01:18,129 --> 00:01:23,140 imagining two different comings and I 22 00:01:21,219 --> 00:01:24,969 think the Bible is pretty clear about 23 00:01:23,140 --> 00:01:26,859 warning the church about how to live in 24 00:01:24,969 --> 00:01:30,730 a time of tribulation so I don't believe 25 00:01:26,859 --> 00:01:33,879 the churches out of is taken away 26 00:01:30,730 --> 00:01:36,480 now I'm not an anti dispensationalist 27 00:01:33,879 --> 00:01:38,890 because I'm able to teach with them 28 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:42,219 witness with them the missions with them 29 00:01:38,890 --> 00:01:43,599 and I hire them and so it's just a 30 00:01:42,219 --> 00:01:45,280 matter of trying to figure out exactly 31 00:01:43,599 --> 00:01:47,919 how that's going to work we are not 32 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:51,099 given and Jesus himself says for 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,750 evidently God's own purposes we are not 34 00:01:51,099 --> 00:01:55,329 given the answers to some of these 35 00:01:52,750 --> 00:01:57,299 things that that we might want to lie 36 00:01:55,329 --> 00:02:00,158 out you know the Bible does have a chart 37 00:01:57,299 --> 00:02:02,110 and there's certain things that if we 38 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:04,479 were kind of editing the Bible we might 39 00:02:02,109 --> 00:02:06,430 wish we're in there and one of them 40 00:02:04,478 --> 00:02:07,810 would be a timeline and a chart same way 41 00:02:06,430 --> 00:02:11,290 the will of God we're not given you know 42 00:02:07,810 --> 00:02:13,870 for our lives a chart instead we've got 43 00:02:11,289 --> 00:02:15,548 to be faithful in every minute believing 44 00:02:13,870 --> 00:02:17,560 that if we're faithful in the minute 45 00:02:15,549 --> 00:02:19,450 that God will lead us in the right way 46 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,090 the next lastly we have to look at 47 00:02:19,449 --> 00:02:24,009 eschatology we are drawn towards the end 48 00:02:22,090 --> 00:02:24,908 because we're yearning for it the most 49 00:02:24,009 --> 00:02:27,340 important thing about biblical 50 00:02:24,908 --> 00:02:29,109 eschatology is that we look at that the 51 00:02:27,340 --> 00:02:31,420 world around us we say this is wrong it 52 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:34,560 has to be fixed and we're not up to 53 00:02:31,419 --> 00:02:37,439 fixing our justice is so imperfect 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,750 CIND we have tumors we have death you 55 00:02:37,439 --> 00:02:44,068 know everything all of creation is 56 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:46,409 groaning for a completion the judgment 57 00:02:44,068 --> 00:02:49,229 the fulfillment and we should be 58 00:02:46,409 --> 00:02:50,129 yearning for that but as we're hearing 59 00:02:49,229 --> 00:02:51,329 for it day by day 60 00:02:50,129 --> 00:02:53,519 you know we're gonna have to watch the 61 00:02:51,330 --> 00:02:54,750 signs of the times but the church hasn't 62 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,670 been really adept at this I mean one of 63 00:02:54,750 --> 00:02:58,409 the problems is we have the intellectual 64 00:02:56,669 --> 00:02:59,189 embarrassment of the Church of finding 65 00:02:58,409 --> 00:03:00,750 that there are people in the 19th 66 00:02:59,189 --> 00:03:02,759 century they sold everything it sat on 67 00:03:00,750 --> 00:03:04,439 top of the rooftops wearing white robes 68 00:03:02,759 --> 00:03:06,750 believing that Jesus was coming the 69 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:09,209 Miller writes on a specific day in the 70 00:03:06,750 --> 00:03:10,889 19th century that didn't happen we've 71 00:03:09,209 --> 00:03:12,780 got popular Christian authors riding 72 00:03:10,889 --> 00:03:14,849 today who are still alive and still 73 00:03:12,780 --> 00:03:20,489 writing who wrote books saying Jesus is 74 00:03:14,849 --> 00:03:22,289 coming back in 1974 evidently not so 75 00:03:20,489 --> 00:03:25,200 they're still writing books that's the 76 00:03:22,289 --> 00:03:26,789 thing that gets me I think if I wrote a 77 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:27,869 book is that Jesus coming in 1974 he 78 00:03:26,789 --> 00:03:32,099 didn't come I don't think I've read a 79 00:03:27,870 --> 00:03:34,019 book in 1975 but nonetheless I think we 80 00:03:32,099 --> 00:03:37,259 have a good intellectual warning here 81 00:03:34,019 --> 00:03:40,349 against trying to be more specific than 82 00:03:37,259 --> 00:03:42,209 the scripture is and instead trust and 83 00:03:40,349 --> 00:03:43,349 they look forward but I do believe that 84 00:03:42,209 --> 00:03:45,060 all those events are going to take place 85 00:03:43,349 --> 00:03:47,069 and they're gonna take place in a way 86 00:03:45,060 --> 00:03:48,299 then in retrospect we're gonna be able 87 00:03:47,069 --> 00:03:49,500 to look at it and say well now that 88 00:03:48,299 --> 00:03:51,870 makes sense I see how that comes 89 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:52,979 together and that's the way it is for 90 00:03:51,870 --> 00:03:56,039 our lives right and then we look 91 00:03:52,979 --> 00:03:57,238 backward is either look God if I if I 92 00:03:56,039 --> 00:03:58,349 ask you right now what's the will of God 93 00:03:57,239 --> 00:04:00,390 for you a year from now you're not going 94 00:03:58,349 --> 00:04:01,979 to know you can think there's a 95 00:04:00,389 --> 00:04:03,629 trajectory you're being called to in 96 00:04:01,979 --> 00:04:06,869 faithfulness but in reality we only know 97 00:04:03,629 --> 00:04:09,209 God's will in terms of our appreciation 98 00:04:06,870 --> 00:04:11,099 for it knowledge of it looking backwards 99 00:04:09,209 --> 00:04:12,469 and at the end of history 100 00:04:11,099 --> 00:04:16,228 we're going to look back and say oh 101 00:04:12,469 --> 00:04:17,459 that's what that was and writing that in 102 00:04:16,228 --> 00:04:18,930 the midst we just better be found 103 00:04:17,459 --> 00:04:21,740 faithful Jesus actually speaks to that 104 00:04:18,930 --> 00:04:23,110 with a parable of the of the bridesmaids 105 00:04:21,740 --> 00:04:25,750 and 106 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:27,669 their lamps or candles you know justjust 107 00:04:25,750 --> 00:04:28,959 you better be found being being ready 108 00:04:27,668 --> 00:04:31,209 looking forward to it there's a wedding 109 00:04:28,959 --> 00:04:33,158 coming but we don't know exactly when 110 00:04:31,209 --> 00:04:34,779 it's going to be here and so we better 111 00:04:33,158 --> 00:04:36,399 be trimming our wicks as it says they're 112 00:04:34,779 --> 00:04:38,938 just to make sure that we are ready to 113 00:04:36,399 --> 00:04:38,938 be given time